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China Law Blog

Interesting way to look at it, and I think I agree.

Balaji Viswanathan

While, I agree to the general fact that a lot of Indians are abject poor and far from reaching the billions, what you need to understand about India is about the momentum currently generated. So, its not that India has covered too much of distance, its that it is going under very high velocity trying to catch up for centuries of lost time.

The 36 are just an example of what an open market could do and what the last few years of reforms have done. Everyone knew China was developing fast, but in just last 3 years India has started to displace China in many of the lists - not just fortune lists, but US visa lists, Fortune company lists, entrpreneurship lists, etc.

So for starters, for all the hype about China, name 3 Chinese private companies? I can at best get to teh recent Lenovo. But, beyond that? See the fortune lists of Indian companies, they are way ahead of China. Even Steel, where China leads everyone in the world, there is not notable Chinese producers. Does it ring a bell, you scholar on investing!!!

So, if you take the fact that Indians have displaced Chinese as the most number of overseas students in top US universities, most number of companies started in Silicon valley by non-Americans are Indians, India has over 100,000 millionaires in US alone and growing at a splending rate with a collective worth of expat Indians topping $1 trillion, and all in just a decade. Or why not you notice the board rooms of companies from CISCO, Microsoft, Vodafone, Pepsi, GE...

While it is ridiculous to say that India has overtake China in overall economy, but the fact that momentum is strong for running businesses is what matters. While you can build our achille's heel infrastructure with some difficulty over the next 2 decades, is there any plan for Chinese transition to democracy?

Harish

Well, I doubt the idea of considering anything related to a country's economy based on how many millionaires or billionaire's it generated or it even has...primarily because people invest in different countries. Take mittal for example, he has i believe 90% of his investments and money outside india...even if it be 60%, he is not a billionaire who india created (his customers elsewhere created his wealth), and he is not investing all that money into india (although excepting a part of it in a new steel company he is being encouraged to build)...mittal steel if i am right doesn't even have their stocks in indian exchanges where indians can invest. so mittal being a billionaire cannot say or change anything at the economic growth level or our stock indices. similar are many of the billionaires, they have a considerable portion of their investments outside.

so you can't really come to an understanding like a thin section alone is rich here and the rest is all poor (80% poor we were before the millenium, new stats are better)

india i think is actually distributing the riches currently, because only recently we are having considerable, sustainable growth in all sectors...though growth initiated with software last decade. if you look at our taxes via recent budgets (finmin.nic.in), and if you look at the disbursal, i think you will see that the distribution is well happening.

comparions with chinese are always there, because china is a huge neighbour and they are showing huge growth all sides...but what is growth and how safe is investing there, if growth is not sustainable (which like you quoted, they themselves have come out in the open)... investing in india is still safer than china (don't get me wrong.. i am not saying this because i am an indian), because growth here is easily sustainable, we are democratic so investments don't have to fear future bad government policies (democracies experiment and implement policies, or easily retract bad policies based on how it affects sectors).

Shams

Nov 15, 2007-
India now has 54 billionaires, 18 more than last year.
India now occupies 3 rd position as the country with largest number of billionaires in the World.(After USA-460 and Russia-57)
The net worth of India's 40 richest people now totals $351bn, with the top three alone worth more than China's top 40, who have a net worth of $120bn.
India will almost always outperform China as far as number of billionaires is concerned.
source-Forbes

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